Quaker Quotes

1 Oct


 

Sorry about the graphic (I couldn’t resist).

Anyway, one of those friendly BDSers who regularly visits the comment section showed up last week to announce, yet again, a new stunning victory which I and everyone else is in complete denial over (since said victory means BDS is just inches from bringing the Zionist entity to its knees).

This time, the triumph in question has to do with the Quakers who allegedly sold off their shares in Hewlett Packard and Veolia, two divestment targets that the boycotters can’t seem to get anyone else to divest from.  Which left most of us panic-stricken Israel supporters asking some obvious questions, namely: “You mean to tell me there are still Quakers out there?” and “If they are out there, what are they doing in the financial services business?

Apparently, the Quakers also divested from every BDSer’s favorite boogeyman, Caterpillar Tractor (or Caterpillar Killdozer, if you prefer) at the beginning of the year (which makes you wonder why this precedent wasn’t even noticed, much less mentioned during the summer’s Methodist and Presbyterian divestment fights).

News of the Quakers, HP, Veolia (and Caterpillar) have been doing the usual circuit on the Israel-hating web sites (and will no doubt be showing up on their handwritten posters and mimeographed fliers soon – BDS being the only movement left that still uses mimeograph machines).  And it may very well be that the Quakers (who do indeed exist outside of oatmeal boxes and actually do maintain various investment funds for members) did everything the boycotters claim they did.

But if that’s the case, one wonders why the way these decisions were described in the boycotter’s own breathless press releases leaves so much room for alternative explanations.

Perhaps I’m just splitting linguistic hairs, but let’s tour the wording of the Quaker announcement as it appeared on the main BDS web site and see if we can determine what represents fact vs. self-serving interpretation. (Quotes from said press release appear in italics.)

Hewlett Packard was removed from Friends Fiduciary’s investments because they provide information technology consulting services to the Israeli Navy, said Jeffery W. Perkins, the Executive Director of Friends Fiduciary. 

Given that Jeffery W. Perkins was supposed to have said this, one wonders why this statement does not appear in quotations?  After all (and as I’ve said many times), the only way to know for certain that an institution has divested for specific political reasons (in this case, in protest of Israel vs. protest of military-related investment generally) would be for the organization to explicitly state that this is what they did.

So, in this case, the quote we are looking for from Perkins would not be one that says they have sold off their HP stock because HP is partially in the weapons business (since weapons manufacturing of any kind is anathema to the pacifist Quakers), but that they were specifically divesting from this company because of its relationship with Israel.

Veolia Environment, the world’s largest water privatization company, was removed because of “environmental and social concerns.” According to Global Exchange, Veolia provides segregated water services to Israeli settlers in the Palestinian Territories and runs a large landfill in the occupied Jordan River valley.

In the first sentence of this paragraph, we are told that the Quakers divested from Veolia for reasons that had nothing to do with Israel (i.e., they did so because of “environmental and social concerns” – with the statement in quotes this time).  But in the BDSers second sentence, they’re talking about an entirely different organization (Global Exchange) condemning Veolia over Israel and settlements and segregated water, and yadda, yadda,  yadda.

Now it may be the case that the Global Exchange organization feels that way (or at least some sub-group within it has made such a statement).  But even if they did, this does not make those accusations true.  More importantly, it provides no link whatsoever with financial decisions made by the Quakers.  So why quote one organization (Global Exchange) to explain a choice allegedly made by another organization (the Quakers), unless such a juxtaposition is the only way to present a decision that had nothing to do with the Middle East as being Israel/BDS related?

Friends’ Fiduciary’s decision to drop Hewlett Packard and Veolia follows on the heels of another important action, says Anne Remley of the Ann Arbor Friends Meeting, which initiated the divestment requests. In April, 2012, Friends Fiduciary’s removed Caterpillar Corporation from their list of socially responsible corporations based on the 360-year old Quaker Peace Testimony, which disavows support for war.

This paragraph strongly resembles the first one on HP in that (1) it provides no quotes from any actual decision makers within the Quaker’s financial organization (instead it gives us a statement by someone within a particular Quaker community who advocates for divestment); and (2) it gives us nothing to indicate that this decision was Israel related vs. general defense/military related (in fact, the statement seems to indicate the latter).

Again, our friends on Planet BDS may show up tomorrow providing direct quotes from the Quaker financial establishment (I never thought I’d be typing that phrase) which explains in uncontestable language that these divestment decisions (1) occurred; and (2) were specifically taken in protest of Israel (not just as part of a general policy to avoid any investments in companies doing business with any military whatsoever).

As we wait for more detail, I think I’m going to find out if the Shakers also run their own retirement and investment funds.   If so, I’m joining.

7 Responses to “Quaker Quotes”

  1. fizziks October 2, 2012 at 4:44 am #

    Somewhat OT, but I've returned from Israel and if anyone is interested in my thoughts (and some pictures) they are here:

    Israel – The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly

    The bottom line is that now that I've seen it for myself, I can say with more authority that the anti-Israel people are just plan wrong in most things they assert and believe. On the other hand, Israel does have some big problems, including some long term ones that will defy easy solutions.

    • Brian Goldfarb October 18, 2012 at 6:08 pm #

      Possibly one of the most interesting, and indeed germane, points that fizziks makes is to say that they saw the whole country “from Jews to Arabs to Bedouin to Circassians, from secular to fundamentalist – from 2000 BC to the 21st century.”

      Of how many countries in the region could that be said? And that, within the Green Line, they're largely living in peace with one another. Oh, and you forgot the Bahai: didn't you get to the fantastic Bahai gardens in Haifa? Shame on you – you have to go back and see them.

  2. fizziks October 2, 2012 at 4:47 am #

    I agree that after so many hoaxes, the burden of proof is on BDS to show that any given divestment is specifically motivated by the Israeli-Arab conflict. And showing so means quotes to that effect from the relevant organizations supposedly doing the divesting.

  3. Anonymous October 2, 2012 at 11:40 am #

    Yes, well, the Quakers — the British society at least — are well known for allowing very non-pacifistic jihaddists to use their meeting houses for speaking engagements, etc.

  4. Sylvia October 2, 2012 at 6:52 pm #

    Small world. The Quakers have the same prophetic witnesses as the Presbyterians do.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/466397250048794/

  5. fizziks October 3, 2012 at 8:59 am #

    Please sign the petition calling on Desmond Tutu to condemn the Holocaust denial by a Palestinian organization he has endorsed, Free Gaza:

    http://www.change.org/petitions/desmond-tutu-remove-your-endorsement-from-and-condemn-holocaust-deniers-2

  6. Anonymous October 5, 2012 at 7:54 pm #

    Quaker divestment is rather insignificant in economic terms. They had something like $250 000 invested in HP, and $140 000 in Veolia. Small change.

    Also, the divestment decisions on Caterpillar and HP appeared to hinge on whether or not their exports to Israel can be considered “weapons components”. Regardless of the BDS, Quakers avoid as a matter of principle investing in anything that has to do with weapons.

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